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hezbollah and hamas. still, al-naimi says oil is no longer used as a weapon. iran tries to keep the price way up, and venezuela's trying to keep the price way up. that--you don't consider that oil as a weapon? >> if you looked at these countries you just named... >> yes. >> every one of them would like to sell every barrel they can. >> at as high a price as they can get away with. >> yes, right. >> the sense out of the o.p.e.c. meeting to a lot of people was, by cutting production, your purpose was to get the price up again, and that would hurt the world, which is suffering an economic crisis. and the world means everywhere. >> i can assure you that price was the least on our mind. i say that in all honesty. >> but the sense is, you were oblivious to the concerns of the world facing this economic crisis, that you didn't care about the recession, the credit problems, or anything like that. >> that is really a very unfair criticism. what did governments do when the financial crisis happened? they took measures to bring stability back to the financial market. and we see, because of our respo
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